Is there much interest in milsurps anymore

I’ve seen a few available online here and there, but they aren’t cheap.

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Yeah, they have seen big price increases. I haven’t fondled a 1911 or any other Schmidt Rubin of that era, only the later K31 Swiss, which I am dearly interested in owning again, but not at the prices they are asking these days.

There was a big batch of unissued K31 contract rifles, Czeck or Bulgarian or something that ended up for sale in the USA for $400 each, all snavelled up rather quickly. Would love to have a couple of those. One to shoot and one to preserve.

I’m interested to see if the price of milsurps drops at all if we go into a full recession due to Covid. Less demand due to people not having the money to buy would indicate that they might fall.

Probably more supply as well if people are looking to liquidate if they need some cash in hand quickly.

Some Might be willing to trade shit paper for Milsurps if it keeps going

I’m going to say it. Covid is driving up the price of Milsurps.
Cruising my usual gun pages and Holy Cow!.
Even adjusting for a bit of inflation , people are asking serious money for Milsurps at the moment and they are selling.
I’m certainly glad I managed to get a few harder to get ones.
K31’s $2.5k+
M48 $2k
All decent .303’s $900+
I wonder if some of those early super withdrawals are being “invested”.

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I have noticed that too. K98k s even more than usual.

I think the price of 303s has dropped on average. I’m seeing way more SMLEs for $800ish than before.

Swedish Mausers are all over the place. Maybe a slight rise in Carcanos. Seem to be more K98s but all going for regular, high prices.

It’s literally just the Mausers. The SC gunshop imported a bunch and went, hey, 3k let’s do it. So that started the cycle lol. I’m with @Nomis. They certainly went up, but not that much.

K31 is just madness. (goes pets his madness)

I’m seeing a bracket jump.
Poor to fair examples now selling at good to very good prices.
Likewise for very good to excellent examples now really selling at a premium.
Swedes hovered around the $600-$700 , full length M96s now fetching good money.
P14s and M17 , good examples well over $1k. It’s good from an investment point of view. Just getting to a stage where nice examples are really pricey. Sucks when looking to buy.
Not turning into one of those "I bought my .303 from the newsagent for $2.50 and they gave me 750000 rounds with it. "
Just noticed a rash of high dollar sales.

There is definitely that.

It’s funny, our dad’s shot / hunted with milsurps because people couldn’t afford new rifles, now we buy new rifles cheaper than those same old rifles.

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Just how it is, I suppose, milsurps are drying up. They’ve been around for a very long time, so good examples are hard to find and obviously they are not made any more. K31 probably still sits in armouries, it’s not “that old” and maybe will see a resurgence once or twice more. However, everything else is done. Everything has been sold off, so get in while you can.

The thing is, about once a decade someone finds a warehouse in some third world country or part of the former Soviet Union which is absolutely packed to the gills with WWII (and sometimes later) hardware.

They’re still selling stuff recovered from Nepal in the mid-2000s, and someone just found a fuckton of stuff in Ethiopia as well that’s in prettty decent shape.

What irritates me about milsurp price is the guns, for the most part, aren’t rare. They were made in their multimillions and even factoring in attrition due to age etc, there’s still millions of them around in serviceable condition. There’s no acceptable reason for an unremarkable SMLE to cost $1000.

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@Martini I just read the same post LMAO

Thing is, I don’t know about most, but myself and few others on here are picky bastards. I would like a Mosin, but it has to be Soviet and made in specific time period. K98, same deal - German or maybe German capture, but not contract. List goes on, that’s just me though. I don’t think any of the contracts are jumping as much as “country x” guns from actual “country x”. If that makes sense.

carcanos are still cheap as chips though lol

They all cost a fortune, though. Soviet WWII-era M91/30s have been made in unholy quantities and there’s heaps of them about, even in Australia. Ditto SMLEs and K98s. Even the “generic example” types that people like me want cost a mint.

Carcanos are cheap because it’s hard to get ammo for them and they’re a pain in the ass to reload for (they use a weird size pill)

@Martini you should scour this forum for carcano thread :wink:

Yeah, there must still be cracking caches out there hidden in random warehouses.

My father told me there was one hidden on Wilsons prom full of .303s, Brens and Austens with Ammo.
More a Bunker than a warehouse.