So here are the safety data sheets for Hopes products:
The specific one I am talking about, is Hope’s #9 - PDF download.
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oh yes, you can totally do tables in this forum
Going to pick my friends brain about it a little more later, some are obviously for cleaning, others are little trickier, but certainly something I can play with. I also think that Ed’s Red mixing ratios are very helpful to reverse engineer this.
After I asked the question (he’s a biologist, not organic chemist, but I know one too So I will ask there as well). For now, some preliminary thoughts:
yeah biology and organic chemistry are very different beasts. So your oleic acid is likely to act as an emulsifier or a lubricant probably emulsifier, so that you can mix kerosine with water (though ethanol should also help). nfi about amyl acetate except for what i just read on wiki and that its a solvent (which i guessed) and is a flavouring agent. My guess would be that the kerosine and ethanol dissolve the grease like substances and ammonia dissolves all the other gunk, oleic acid keeps it all together. Kinda like egg yolk in mayo.
Where did water comes from? This is the unknown. If everything is mixed at maximum and Oleic Acid is at 5%, then it’s probably a lubricant. However, if there is water (also a good solvent, to make up the remaining percentage), then it could act as an emulsifier. And so can ammonia I am told. While Kerosine and Oleic Acid would displace water. That said, I don’t see water separate to the top, so my poorly educated guess is that it’s not an ingredient, in which case, Ethyl could act as an emulsifier and Oleic Acid is rust inhibitor.
- Ethyl Alcohol - cleaning (and potentially emulsifier).
- Kerosene - cleaning.
- Ammonium Hydroxide - (ammonia) cleaning; and/or emulsifier. However, I suspect it’s at the very minimum for cleaning to act as a mild coper solvent.
- Oleic Acid - most likely rust inhibitor (oily feel in Hopes), I suspect; but friend tells me it could be an emulsifier or both. Now that I think about it, I think it is both, similarly to Ed’s Red transmission fluid, that acts as both.
- Amyl Acetate - my guess, this is used to give the solution its distinct’ smell.
I think an experiment will be to:
Remove Oleic Acid and Amyl Acetate from the solution, to test above hypothesis.
Mix the rest at various ratios, maybe mix some similarly to Ed’s Red…
#1 Burn some powder on steel and clean. See what does a better job.
#2 Rub a copper bullet on steel plate and see what dissolves it.
#3 As above, swap copper for plastic to simulate shotgun wads.
Do some research on what dissolves lead and is harmless to gun, then either mix this in and test again or use it and then displace with the above solvent. Maybe Kerosine or alcohol would be doing the displacement, hopefully, unless it doesn’t but that’s the test.
Note: terms ‘lubricant’ and ‘rust inhibitor’ is used interchangeably here.