Cz 527 (7.62x39) vs Ruger American Ranch

5 shots at 100m out of the Ranch.

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That wasn’t an act of look how good I am mate, was just to show what sort of accuracy the Ruger American Ranch is capable of with hand loads. :beer::beer::beer:

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More I think about things, more I think Ruger is a better choice. Anyway, nothing is a choice right now, but yeah I want something :slight_smile:

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Haha, my experience precisely. Too bad they dont make that 50 round box of steel case anymore, stuff was magic out of the box in the Ranch. I used the Ruger Ranch 450 Bushmaster magazine for mine and it was flawless and left so much room for hanging out big heavy pills all the way to the lands.

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Just. Get. Both.

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I don’t feel strongly enough about them for that :slight_smile:

What about a Howa Mini action in 7.62x39? Just a thought.

I have dies for 7.62x39 but don’t have a rifle. I really want to try the Berrys copper plated 123gr “plinking projectiles” out of the 7.62x39. They go well out of the 303 with Trailboss

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It’s not something I considered, will take a look! Ta.

I have one and its very very good.

@JizzFlinger, since you’ve owned both… What makes it better than Ruger?

Stock quality is a better grade of fibre reinforced plastic on the Howa.
Bolt is very smooth on the Howa.
Ruger is much better balanced in the field. The short 16" is also pretty thick. And threaded.
Ruger is chambered in .308 meaning there’s all the .300BLK ultra heavy subsonic choices availble for it. Probably work in the .311 Howa too.
Howa magazines are 5 rounders only, and they are so expensive to buy multiples.
Rugers Mini30 magazine isnt a great choice. Cheap enough and available in lots of sizes, its really limits projectile choice as they were made to fire 123FMJ ammo I took to the reciever with die grinder and some cold blue to make some of the heavier soft point bullets slide in easier.

So we are getting closer to the d-day here :slight_smile: I am $9.20 away from… well… Anyway.

Feels wrong. Maybe in semi auto Rugers? I imagine that all US guns are made to shoot factory ammo first, everything else second. Something feels very “lore” here.

Feels huh? Thats what we’re down to? Someone has some god damned feels?
Hu-well then, let me get my scribe and papyrus so I can ink these memorious memntos, SIR.

“Chapter One. I asked a slightly colored man, a quadroon or perhaps an octaroon about his experiences with a particular cartridge of the smokeless type…”

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Something designed for a .308 bullet would fail SAAMI spec for 7.62x39 which is .311-0.002; thus making it .309 - .311. So while a .308 diameter bullet would get a gas kick up the bum, expand and obturate the bore well, probably, a broad statement such as:

…is misleading and feels wrong.

Practically however, never owned or shot anything in that chambering, so just basing that on SAAMI.

Okay, screw you, I bought a gun.

@JizzFlinger I still like you and I am still going to buy you wings and we are will still going to have a range date. But! There’s a small matter of posting the thing about you know, where I was correct.

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What did you get mate?

Ruger American ranch

7.62x39?

Correct. I thought about Cz, it’s puuurty in a refined European kind of way, but list of pros on the Ranch model by far outweighed the pros of Cz.

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