577 Snider load advice

Snider are a lot easier to make out of 24ga than martini. When my father and I were doing them we started with the martini and any we started crushing got trimmed down for my snider. Unfortunately the chamber is a bit too big and I was blowing the side out of the 24ga brass on first firing so switched to bertram brass. Expensive but with annealing each time it should last forever.

Here is the result of 24ga brass in my Nepalese snider

yuyks. Maybe a box of Bertram too then.

G’day juststarting,
I use Bertram cases, and the same bullet for my .58 M/L Zouve and Enfield. which is a …575 - 500g hollow base cast from a Lee #90481 mould. Mine cast at .578, and the hollow base obturates well in all 8 of my Sniders. My standard short range plinking load (out to 100m) is 65g of 2F with semolina filler as needed. I fill the base with lube use a powder over card cut from thin cardboard (Weetbix box). If you want to play with smokeless, I have had good results with 10 to 15g of Trailboss, Cheers.

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Well that works out good I have a Lee. 575 Minnie mold you can have.

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Excellent, thanks all.

Just ordered from X-Ring and will test @GUN-DMC mould too. Oh, so much gun geeking out ahead.

If I’m not mistaken this would be a pre 1900, obsolete caliber and you could hang it up in the lounge room right?

It’s an exempt firearm, correct.

More like above the bed :smiling_face_with_three_hearts:

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Not considered obsolete up here as you can buy loaded ammo (just not in Australia)

That’s the most obscure statement. Where is up here?

Queensland.

It wasn’t a problem as I was always intending to register it to shoot but did notice that a few states consider it obsolete.

There is a local company that sells loaded 577-450 but not seen any loaded 577 snider for sale in Australia. There are a couple of stores like Buffalo Arms in the US that sell it. I think that is why Queensland WLB deem it still commercially available.

Yeah, gotcha.

Anybody wanting to know what is, or is not, considered antique in Queensland, go here: - https://www.police.qld.gov.au/programs/weaponsLicensing/licenceApplication/ammunition/ammunitionavailability.htm

Although the web link is to their current list, I don’t believe that it is any way complete.

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@TheDude what bullet mould did you use to fireform the Snider brass? Bertram and 20ga shells are too small to fit anything I have and need to be fireformed. Wondering if you could suggest something that you did?

I used the Lyman 575 PH mold for my 2 band enfield muzzleloader for first load. From memory they were a pretty tight fit and needed a slight flair on the cases.

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Is that minie ball (i.e. cavity in the bum of it) or a solid?

Minie.

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That’s what I used, with from memory (need to check) 60gr of FF. I found the expansion wasn’t enough with Bertram brass. Mooooooaaare powder I guess.

I think I put about 75gr in mine. Chamber is well oversized in mine so they end up oval. After first firing they now just get a 0.590” expander in them to round them out