“Won’t keep” is believable because nobody wants to front the courts when it’s found out that it was kept. However, it’s a broad statement, I must admit I haven’t read about it, but not keep what? The entire data set? All Data set, etc. Needs a lot more detail.
Come on guy we are being very paranoid about this. I mean when has the government ever lied to us or done the wrong thing by us? They are only out to look after our welfare and nothing else 
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There are so few new cases in most of Australia that it will probably be redundant before they can roll it out anyway, definitely before they fix all the fuck ups that every bit of tech the gov rolls out has.
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“There is no geolocation, there is no surveillance, there is no tracking,” he said.
"The app simply connects with another app if those two phones are within 1.5 metres for 15 minutes.
“It simply swaps phone numbers and names.”
Interesting. So how/when is this data (a) pulled from the device; and (b) how is it stored on the device?
For example, can someone use it to determine someone’s name and contact details, if say I had a powerful bluetooth antenna ('Rifle' Sniffs Out Vulnerability in Bluetooth Devices : NPR)?
Someone sits outside a police station or a gunshop or drug rehab clinic or whatever collecting names and phone numbers for later?
You wanted zombies? You wanted madness? You paranoia? I give you… Sparta!
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You loco
…or am I
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They can already track our phones to 1-2 meters, they can already turn on the speaker and camera without us knowing it and use it to bug not only our calls but whatever’s going on in the phones vicinity.
This app can’t really do anything they can’t do already, BUT by downloading it you are AGREEING to be tracked and that’s where it can get curly down the track IMO because who knows what then. Plus we all know how secure Gov data bases are kept
That’s it, i’m off to panic buy some tin foil…
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Precisely the only issue I see with it. I’d rather continue on, knowing they’re trying to fuck me than be duped into giving them explicit permission to do so. 
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Thinking about this app more has only made me more reluctant to ever install it.
As everybody has said it only warns you after it is too late. The reality is that you should never come into close contact with a confirmed case of Covid. If you do it means the contact person is not complying with the self isolation orders that have been imposed on them once being diagnosed.
The much more sensible approach would be to offer a person that tests positive the option of home self isolation with the condition of a tracking APP or to be detained at a place determined by the Government.
Both seem pretty extreme measures when you actually write them out as it is really no fault of the infected person but one way or another they are placed into detention. But in the interests of societies health that is the only option ATM. I think in this scenario I would take the stay at home with the ankle bracelet tracker every time.
Point of the app is to be ‘reactive’ and trace the exposure. It’s incorrect to say:
The application is there to do contact tracing, so it’s doing what it’s supposed to be doing.
But have you downloaded it yet???
No, No, and to make ten characters No 
Yes, I have.
But have you activated it???
Do you think that a person that has tested positive for the virus and knows that they face huge fines if caught leaving self isolation 1. Would have downloaded the app? and 2 If they did download the app would take their phone with them when they left the house?
I would think they would more likely leave the phone with the app on it at home to avoid being detected away from home.
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My understanding is that it isn’t used to track people who are already positive, but keeps track of people the user has been in contact with for the last two weeks so that if the user tests positive in future it’s possible to alert the people in the apps backlog. In saying that, I don’t have it either
Correct, afaik. And it’s probably important to deferentiate between tracking, in a sense of remote data collection, which is what people usually think of, however the app doesn’t do that. And what the app does, i.e. store data locally, on your phone and allow data transmission to whomever for contact tracing, with your authorisation, if you are diagnosed with the plague. It stores locally names and phone numbers.
Unfortunately nothing exciting about this app, other than it doesn’t work for some users on Apple devices.
Keep in mind, every mobile security expert on the planet is now poking this app and looking at the guts. If there’s something to find, you would have heard about it. And you can always uninstall it later.
So given that they have released the source code can you get the number of the hot chick you managed to get close to and stalk?
or does it only store imei numbers of the phones that have to be decoded by the telcos at a later date? Cold water shower.
