Just a sample. Lots more. Seems like SSAA National has lost its way for good. Critique el Cuuntus Presedentus - get banned. Not going to link any other shooting organisation into this thread, because this smells of shit - but time to expand into other states with some urgency, while the iron is hot.
Started with SSAA National supporting more bans.
Let the coup begin lol
Perhaps this might seem like a silly question, but I note that the date of this communication is 5th Jul 2019.
Was there an appeal, and if so what was the outcome?
What has Tim West revealed about the outcome, or indeed, the circumstance that (might have) lead to the imposition of this sanction?
Before we get ourselves in a lather about the sanction, would it not be reasonable to know the facts of the case, rather than turn it into a beat-up?
Thereās two stories there, @oldAG - dude getting shafted, correct, content unknown, but sounds like he was bagging the president, which is not an appropriate reaction. However, who knows, could be all sort of comments that would make this action proportional or even below what would be expected. Correct, unknown. The second story, is them seemingly approving more bansā¦ Thereās more on that on AHP Facebook page and Shooting Stuff Australia (my thought on the channel and creator aside) - he goes through some aspects of that in the latest video.
At this stage itās more or less irrelevant what or when or who, to be honest. You have regional branches publicly and openly distancing themselves from and attacking national governing body. Seems to be gaining momentum.
Itās hard for me to gauge whatās going on here from your little collage, but I thought ssaa lost itās way a long time ago.
I wonder if it was actually infighting on Facebook and not an asteroid the killed off the other dinosaurs?
Good on Sydney but for having some balls But.
AHH ! sh!t and Iāve just paid another 12mths dues hope iām not wasting my money supporting a house full of infighting
I think the infighting has been going on for well over a year. Member here is close to the NSW branch and filled us in on some stuff happening back then.
I have to say i normally just take this kind of stuff with a grain of salt until i have some proper hard facts, but iāve heard a few things for a while now from people i consider to be reliable and āin the knowā that really annoy me about SSAA.
When my next renewal form comes around it will be going in the bin. Until it gets fresh blood from the top down with fresh ideas and actually starts to give a shit about the average shooter they are good for nothing.
IMO their actions of late like supporting more bans actually make them more of a threat than any of the anti groups.
I suppose itās like any business once there is infighting it leads to its demise I to like mostly facts but I donāt get much info on the ssaa so really canāt say much but judging by what has been said there must be some rubbish going on in them itās something I donāt want to be a part of so now that Iāve paid my 12mth dues iāll stick it out for that time period then iāll join you JSS and pass my membership to the bin I donāt need them to hold my rifles so iāll move on from them I have joined the Shooters Union a week or so ago and recieved my plastic membership card today membership comes with a $10,000,000 liability insurance so theyāll do me for now
Ah, the hypocrisy of social media posters. Just put your side of the story out there, donāt put any facts forward, āpoor me, look what has happened to meā, then it becomes a āSocial media outrageā, various brain-dead fuck-wits jump on the bandwagon and go along for the ride. Welcome aboard!!!
I know the bloke in the above letter, he is a shit-stirrer and has changed branches a number of times due to pissing people off. He has been placed in the ānaughty cornerā because no branch wants him. At the first Nationals shoot he attended, he obtained the nick-name āA.Cā, annoying c#nt, within the first few hours. Better to find out both sides of the story before joining in fellas.
gdb, that is so good to know that you get $10M liability insurance.
Iām quite happy with my membership of SSAA, one of the benefits of which is $20M Public Liability insurance.
Thanks danmac for that first bit of fact Iāve heard on this matter I have toyed with the idea of getting out of ssaa but seem to stay for some reason so iām not jumping on any ban wagon mate itās just that there is so much misinformation on these forums you donāt know what to believe but what you have just said puts a new light on the matter also my wife is joining also so itās not really over till the fat lady sings I just thought iād put my thoughts up on the forum and did explain that I donāt have much info on the ssaa so I couldnāt say much so I think iāll keep my thoughts to myself in future cheers
Gāday oldAG mate thatās good for you but I havenāt suggested that you resign from the ssaa at ant time I was just stating what the SUA has sent me with the card mate and if it was allowable iād be getting $30,000,000 if you add both together but I donāt think thatāll happen but I still get the $20,000,000 whilst Iām still a member of the ssaa which I and only I will decide if and when I leave the ssaa when it occurs so I donāt really see what your point was
I wasnāt having ago at you personally gdb, my posting was just a comment on how things get blown out of proportion via social media, (and this type of forum, if how this all blew into a cat-calling shit fight is anything to go by), without all of the facts being presented or sought out.
Like I said, there are always two sides to the story.
Gday danmac yes I agree there is always two sides to any story and you must realise that in todays climate of communications rarely the facts come out instantly and yes people should get the facts right but when they are not available the we have a forum like this to throw info around to try and sort out what is not fact and what could possibly be close to fact with no real consequence to anybody then every person on here will have a different opinion and they are entitled to it without harsh kick back from others by lashing out and generalising the āābrain dead fuckwitsāā then it does put me right in there with all others if you read the posts I put up then you would have read that I stated that I didnāt have any info on the ssaa so I couldnāt have a say on them my decision to possibly move from the ssaa was my choise but I was thinking that the SUA and the SSAA were fighting in different areas but for the same gain for shooters so this is why I have never resigned from the ssaa as weāre on truths then here is my thoughts on the matter ''the shooters union can do things for shooters that the ssaa canāt do and have proven that ie āāranges and compsāā but on saying that they do have areas that the ssaa donāt have and that is time to fight political BS you yourself said there has been some infighting in the ssaa this a classic from over stretched workings and power plays inside the ssaa or any other business for that matter I personally think having both parties like the SUA and the SSAA would be beneficial for shooters but reading what has been said on here I doubt the ssaa would work in with any combined effort from any other business and there within lays the problem but I donāt have any facts of that except that a member of the ssaa and a member of the sua gouging at each other on here basically sounded like show me yours iāll show you mine anyway iāll stop now but remember iām me I make my own decisions iām not a sheep that jumps off a cliff because the other sheep do I donāt get on a BS media train because it feels good and I say it as I see it, everything I have put on this forum is either my opinion or what I perceive from other opinions call me out if I over step the mark iām a big boy but FFS donāt generalise me into the argument when youāre having a bad moment
