Can any Police Officer be a Referee in Vic?

Hey all,

I sent off my Paperwork with I.D etc. for my firearms license this morning. I had a Police Officer that I know sign off on my ID etc. as my referee, going off where it says this in the acceptable referee’s section:

“A member of the Australian Federal Police,
or of the police force of a State or territory,
who in the normal course of his or her
duties, is in charge of a police station.”

We took this to mean a police officer who is in the charge of a Police Station, ie. having a police station they are under charge of and report to etc. But now I’m worried that it might mean it has to be a Police Officer who is actually in charge of a Police Station. The way it’s worded is a little confusing.

The reason I’m second guessing myself is because in the box next to the one I mentioned above, it says: “A member of the Australian Federal Police,
or of the police of a State or Territory, of or
above the rank of sergeant.”

I’m checking his rank but does this mean my application will bounce. I had assumed any Police Officer would be fine. So I’m just wondering if anyone here knows or can confirm if my referee will check out or not. If not, I’ll have to reprint my I.D points and send off a new copy under my GP or Accountant.

Thanks,

Wait and see but I suspect that even if it does mean a higher rank police officer, they may not be too worried about that.

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I think there is a certain rank that is required for Stat decs and certifying other docs as true copies. so I would think that the same would apply. However when you look at the requirements of other people that can sign off I would consider any Police officer the equivalent. Sorry no help but they should get back to you pretty quick if there is an issue.

Yeah I wasn’t sure how strict they would be on the fine details.
Should I contact them and ask directly or wait and see if it’s an issue? I’d hate to get to the end of the 28 day waiting period to have them say “Sorry, your referee doesn’t suffice and you’ll need to start again”

My first application I used my doctor as a ref. I cant remember what he did wrong but it was only about a week before the application was sent back. I then used my Post office guy. Country town he was the boss and knew me for ages no problems.

They don’t wait 28 days and then look at your application. For me, it was approved in a week and then I waited out the rest of the 28 days.

I’d wait for them to contact you. It may not be an issue.

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It should be fine. LRD believe it or not are not arseholes. They might ask for additional doco, but you won’t be asked to start again. But, it should be fine.

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The fact that you have a police officer that can say they have known you x amount of time and is happy to sign off on your application, would be a pretty darn good indication of your suitability. I’m tipping you’ll be all good. :beers:

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When it comes to finding a referee do you need to know them personally or are they just an approved person who acts as an additional ID verification?

I’ve looked over the list of approved referees and I don’t personally know anyone on the list. The closest I’m thinking is the post office manager. I don’t know who it is but I’ve been using the same post office for 20 years.

Hi @sam, welcome to the forum! What state are you in?

Victoria

Thats a really good question. I’ve been thinking about this myself recently. Short answer is I don’t know. A slightly longer answer is - i don’t think so, because they need to say how long they’ve known you. I’m sure theres a leeway, but I’m guessing it can’t be a stranger either. I’m basing this on the fact that I was helping with an application very recently and we were asked to resubmit a document with referee verification. Original one was verified along with others at a local police station.

You could ask a GP or if you have kids, one of their teachers. But ultimately the best way would be to email LRD and ask.

Maybe @ShootersUnion knows a bit more about this. But short of SU, I think everyone will be just guessing.

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My experience with this is that the person has to know you and have known you for a period of time and attest that you are a good bloke. Rocking up to the local police wont cut it if they dont know of you and if they do its probably not a good thing. Its not just an ID check but a character check. I had to convince my doctor but that got knocked back for some reason something he did wrong on the form ended up Postmaster offered as I had know him for 20 years or so.

So it’s like an exclusive club you only get into if you happen to know the right people.

Nope. Same as getting passport. Someone in official position needs to verify you are who you say you are. No big deal. Go to your post office if you have been using it for the 20yrs, should be no probs.

I think you gotta know them of some level for at least 12 months, but it doesn’t have to be an actual personal relationship.

I used a family doctor that I infrequently visit. Probably the first I saw them for a least a year when I asked him to sign the document.

Unfortunately our involvement with Victoria is minimal so I simply can’t give an informed answer to that question, unfortunately.

I can visualise @Tempestman rocking up saying look, I have this bad rash on the shaft, just near the sack. So the doctor is moving your junk all around to find it. And nothing, oh well, may have cleared up.

Then, @Tempestman is like, by the way, since we know each other now on a deeper level, do you mind signing this reference. lmao

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Sign this prescription please, and this whilst you’ve got the pen(is) out.

You haven’t been to a doctor, dentist, pharmacy or met a nurse in the past few years?

Do you support Collingwood?

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