But they might buy some in for you, if you order enough.
Sunbury firearms has some afaik
I’ll be just down the road from Centreway tomorrow. Do you want me to give them a call?
Na don’t worry mate, I might talk to holts about getting me some, might order the 5000 through them.
Saw Fedral wads at Golden Flash in Maryborough at $16/ Bag.
I’m thinking of doing more research into loading without plastic wads.
I have loaded with cards and wads but the thing i need to work on is centering the slugs in the case and then the bore. roughly speaking my 3 slug designs are all .69 cal and the bore of a shotgun is .72 - .73 cal the difference of which is normally filled up with the petals of the wad.
Going to order some of these
https://www.trackofthewolf.com/List/Item.aspx/171/1
And try a layer or two of UHT carton around the slug to centre them.
Is it just me, or is it really weird that someone doesn’t make a non-plastic, biodegradable wad? There must be millions of wads spat out of shotguns every year.
I think most cases have been UV biodegradable for some years. That’s also one of the advantages of mild steel instead of brass. It’s just an additive to the plastic. TBO I thought wads were biodegradable yonks ago.
As I understand it, a problem with the UV degradable ones is that they don’t break down quickly. The links posted above and a search shows that there are manufacturers putting out biodegradable loaded shot shells and wads that should break down quickly.
Good to know, now I just need to find some locally that are affordable to shoot.
Cheers
Speed of breakdown is just a compromise… If they breakdown too fast it’ll happen while you have them in storage if you don’t keep them in a dark place. I think if it happens in about a year in the open sun it would be OK. Normally most plastics take several 1000 years.
Its actually something they leave out of the plastic to let them break down. In the plastics they dont want to break down they add the UV stabilizers. Even then some of the plastics the harder PVC type will break down from ozone and UV or make them brittle to the point the break easily or crumble. PVC plumbing pipes are a good example of this.
The wads are a real environmental concern and a risk for animals like cows that seem to love to chew on plastics.
you know until recently I had never given wads any real thought
Yeah but plastic that isn’t uv stabilised that goes brittle and breaks down into little pieces isn’t actually biodegradable, it’s just in little pieces. There’s a big difference.
Me too. Its only because I’ve just started shooting a few clays with my boy that it’s come up on my radar…
Yesterday I was out in the paddock and came across a stump that had a tin lid nailed to it, that used to be my Air rifle target maybe 35+ years ago. At the base of the stump was a shotgun hull that used to be stuck on top of the stump for a more challenging target. It was still largely intact.
Now I cannot remember exactly when the shell was put there, but a house was built behind it decades ago that stopped me using Air Rifles on site.
Lol does that mean they used to add it?
https://www.extremegear.com.au/eley-fourlong-2-5-410g-7-5-shotshells.html
410 shells with fibre wads…
Proably available in 12g too.