58 Zoauve 1863 Remington

I actually spoke with him personally but I do recall that he said he had written about it.
Proper size brush and plenty of oil.

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The guy i bought it off was saying he would refund me, if i could provide a destruction reciept. But now he’s not answering his phone, so he can suck a fat one!

My Musketoon had a couple of fairly bad rust spots in the bore when I got it. They polished out pretty much using Lee’s method. It shoots pretty well and I haven’t had any leading issues with the Minies

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I guess patched RB would shoot ok in a rough bore maybe

Yeah, dunno. Havent shot patched ball for a couple of decades.
I’d give the bore a good going over and try both. Did you get it for a specific purpose or just for the sake of it?
The beauty of minies is that you can size them so they pretty much rattle down the bore when loading, the hollow base and skirt will pretty much instantly bump up and seal the bore. Cast them in pure lead.

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I really only bought it because its a Miroku, nice timber and i just wanted at least one ML inthe safe. Rusty bores dont appeal to me much though

The old wives tale about taking it in the shower to clean is the downfall of many a good muzzleloader.
While di-hydrogen-oxide is about the best blackpowder solvent there is, it is also the worst thing for the bore. I patch mine with moosemilk during use and a really good clean with that and Hoppes #9 then a good oil before storage.
When we were at Bisley, I watched my team-mates spend ages each night pouring water down their bores, making a mess and then spending ages trying to dry them out. They then wasted heaps of time at the start of each match patching and capping off trying to get their rifles ready to shoot. At night I’d do my usual patch clean then a light patch of oil for the night. 10- 15 minutes tops. I’d then kick back and enjoy a few brverages while I watched them…
Next morning, I’d use a couple of dry patches, cap off a couple of times to clear the nipple, then shoot my whole match without capping off for the rest of the day. ( I used a different loading method to them, I don’t clean and cap-off between shots like they were.)
We were shooting about 40+ shots a day and I never had any misfires.
I’ve put the borescope down my Gibbs since and she’s as clean as new.

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Sounds like hard work, not fun…Its hard enough trying to keep a full bore rifles bore conditioned to perform. Smallbore was great, clean the bore at the end of the pennant season. Then shoot a packet for the bore to come back to the sight settings you had set.

Not really. I’d rather clean my bp rifles than my high-powers anyday. The method I use for the muzzleloader sort of cleans the bore each time you load, uses one patch. At the end of a string of 10-15 shots, a quick wet patch/dry patch clean, maybe 4-6 patches tops.
For my bpcr’s I wipe between shots with a bore-pig and dry patch chaser. That works all day no matter how many shots. Alternatively, sometimes I’ll use a blow tube, which is good for up to 15 shots. A quick wet/dry patch clean, maybe 6 patches, shoot again.
I suppose it sounds like a bit of work but you once you get a system going, you get it done while your checking on your last shot. Of course I’m talking about competition shooting here. Long range you have a heap of time, silhouette you are on a timer, 5 minutes for a string of 5 shots. At the end of the day, my rifles clean up with less than 10 patches after firing around 60 shots.
My highpower silhouette rifles get a clean after 20 shots during the match, maybe a dozen or more patches, then at home after a match I’ll give them a thorough clean. Copper fouling is the biggest problem I have and it has taken up to 50 patches sometimes to get the bores cleaned to my satisfaction. ( That’s a bit to do with using fast twist 6.5’s using long for diameter bullets, lots of bearing surface. My 7mm’s weren’t as bad for copper fouling)

Yes and high power barrels have been worn by cleaning rods…Its a double edged sword…Thats what i love about cast, and paperpatch bullets, no evil copper fouling…Even my 22s only ever see lead waxed subsonics. Better on the wind too! When my eyes were better, i could head shoot rabbits at 100m all night!

Indeed it is, mine tend to burn out before I wear them out with the cleaning rod. I had a 6.5 based on an Ackley Improved .257Roberts case. It shot best when run flat knacker, had it rechambered 3 times due to throat erosion but boy did that thing shoot, 1.5" groups @ 500, (off the bench of coarse), but my ram scores where good!
There is supposed to be a BPCR silhouette match on at Rankins Springs next month and hopefully we’ll get to shoot a .22BPCR match as well. It’s shot on the lever-action small-bore targets at 50,100,150 1nd 200m. It surprises people how accurate a .22 standard velocity round is @200m.

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Spot on, about the .22 200m accuracy! I fluked a few rabbits at over 200 paces…so maybe 200m, but they were gut shot…love that sound…haha

Im going to do some 2 and 300m testing with my 310 cadets when/if i can get more AR2205…The 310 is one of best accuracy success stories for me at present! Best thing i did was ream the mold out to ensure a bore riding heel!

I still reckon have a go at that Zouave bore, it might surprise you. You may not get benchrest accuracy but good enough to hunt with or bang a few gongs…

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Yeah its worth a try, its a beautiful looking rifle otherwise

Miroku do make good barrels, it is certainly worth a bit of effort. I’ve got a Miroku built 1885 Winchester BPCR in .45-70 that I leave in the U.S, it shoots very well.

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I will let you know how i go with the barrel, when i get to it. Most of my saore time, is spent on my stock duplicarver at present.

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Know anyone who wants my wall hanger Zoauve?

Pm me a price mate

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