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Browning T-Bolt Review

I bought this rifle in early 2015 because I was after a quality built new gun in left handed action and there aren’t many that fit that description. I had also shot a friend’s T-bolt and it felt very comfortable. This rifle is no different, even though my mates gun was a synthetic sporter and mine is a timber varmint/target. The gun “points” very well for me and it is a very light rifle for a varmint/target rifle. It cost about $1050 or $1100 but i have seen them online for $950 new.

Build quality is good with a quality feel and nice fit and finish although some plastic parts do let it down for me from an aesthetic point of view. Functionally, they work fine and are durable. The only thing that lets this rifle down is the trigger. It is adjustable but just feels terrible and takes some getting used to. Even with such a crappy trigger feel, my best groups with this rifle have been under 1/2” at 50m with CCI Velocitor and it is a very capable pest control/hunting rifle. There is a trigger job that can be done to it so I plan on sending the trigger off and hopefully it will be an even better rifle for it.
EDIT: more on the crappy trigger: i just spent some time adjusting the trigger as light as i could get it. It started at almost 6lb and only adjusted down to 4lb/ish. I say “ish” because of the half dozen tests i did, the pull varied between 3.7ish and 4.2ish pounds! Definitely going to bite the bullet and get the issue fixed. While looking online for a DIY fix i saw mention of a full steel replacement unit. First time I’ve seen it in many searches. Think i will take my first spare dollars and go this option. Not a cheap route to take but i think it will make it a rifle i am happy to keep in the safe 'til i shuffle off and also make it a viable target rig for casual comps. Link to the Jard trigger below:
http://www.jardinc.com/browning-1/

I did have plans to use it in club comps to build my shooting skills but because the trigger is so shyte, I have yet to take it to a rimfire club comp and in that time I have been tied up with full-bore target anyway. My club has plans to start a rimfire f-class division so it may still get some use in that regard after the trigger has been worked but, funds allowing, I will probably just keep it for a paddock rifle and maybe the occasional silhouette shoot and get myself a dedicated f-class training rimfire: maybe a Lithgow CrossOver, which I was planning to get in the first place but they took too long to release the left hand version of the LA101CO.

I would definitely recommend one as it is overall a good comfortable rifle that is very reliable. The action is good and easy to cycle. Never had a mis-feed or FTF in quite a few thousand rounds let go but I would suggest getting the trigger job done straight up if tight groups and quick shooting is what you want. I find I slow down with it because I am concentrating on not “pulling” the shot due to the trigger. The chamber is listed as a match chamber, so it is quite tight and some rounds do leave some shavings of lead &/or brass behind but it doesn’t affect feeding and the tight camber is supposed to help accuracy &/or precision of the rifle. Rounds are fed by a proprietary “helix” 10 round magazine that i quite like. It is easy to load and unload and feeds very well indeed.


Really quite a handsome and comfortable rifle to use. She has had a few knocks going in and out of my crowded undersized safe but all in all still in very good nick. Can’t wait to see how it shoots when get around to getting the trigger worked.


These rifles are made under contract by Miroku in Japan. The quality of Japanese attention to detail shows.


Close up of the straight-pull action. You can also see the plastic trigger and trigger guard: the only real disappointment about this rifle in my view. I’ve even considered asking my gunsmith to manufacture a steel trigger for it…

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Nice reviews mate :+1: Question. Would a Al or Ti or some blend, trigger be a suitable option as apposed to steel ? You have a forge, should be able to get it hot enough to melt either for an atempt at casting one. Wouldn’t matter if it didn’t work, just melt again and try V2.0 etc… :wink: Be worth having a yarn to Noisy if ya decide to give it a crack mate.

Just a thought :beers:

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Ooh… cast brass made from lost wax and old 22lr casings!
Nice idea… why didn’t i think of that! I’ll look at the parts diagram and see if it is feasible.

I hope all you guys can put up a review of your favourite 22lr. :grin::+1:

Cast brass, an even better idea :+1: Glad I made you think of it :rofl: Last 22lr I had was prior to the big bad buy back, it was a Remington nylon 66. I loved it and the only time it ever jammed up on me was if I used rem ammo… Not sure why but it just didn’t agree with it… :beers:

Review: Anschutz Mod.1450


I bought this rifle second hand for $350 with a nice little scope on it.
The fit and finish are excellent as you’d expect from an Anschultz. The gun is a tack driver using Highland Sub-sonics and easily capable of head shooting bunny’s all day long.
the only problem I’ve had with the gun is that the mag is a bit loose and sometimes doesn’t want to feed, I have no idea if the problem is due to the mag being worn or not the correct mag, but I’ve figured out if I rest the gun on my hand while I work the bolt its pretty good.
I have mostly used this gun when sitting on a warren, but It is also a good walk around gun, easy to point and comfortable to shoot.
All in all a great little gun for the money it cost.

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A mate had a similar issue. It’s difficult to say if its the same, but I tweaked his mag a bit and it was all good… It had me puzzled for a bit but I marked a few rounds with a marker and a line to indicate top and left etc… and found what I believe to have been the mag feeding low and that’s my guess for yours if that makes any sense to you mate… With very slight adjustment of the bit’s that set the angle of the presented round, his was all good… I’m far from an expert but it worked for his issue… Hopefully this solves the issue for you also mate…

At the very least worth examining imo… best of luck mate

Just a guess really without having the offending gun in my hands for a proper look…:beers:

Thanks for that mate, I’ll get around to fiddling with it sooner or latter. :+1:

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.22 Review: Mossberg 802 Plinkster
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I have had one of these rifles for a few years now, I bought it as a scoped package for $350 but I think they go for about $450 now.
It is a budget rifle as the price would suggest but its intended purpose was just as a plinker to teach the kids with and it has seen many thousands of rounds through it, the only problems we have ever had with it is maybe 10 times the extractor has jumped the case rim and I’ve had to tap the case out with a cleaning rod, but like I said thats only 10 or so times out of many thousands of shots.
the scope (a no named Chinese thing ) it came with was a 4-9 x 40 I think and worked just fine for a spot of plinking but I have upgraded it to cheap 4-12x50 that came off something else, mostly just because I had one to put on there.
I can’t really say much about the accuracy of the rifle as I never did do any testing to see what ammo it likes, but we have shot plenty of what ever was cheap at the time, Whinchester 555, Remington Bucket-o-bullets, Highland Subs and what ever else was on hand at the time and they all shoot roughly minute of tin can. I’m sure knowing how fussy some '22’s are that if you did the correct testing you would find a bullet that it shoots well I just never bothered.
The fit and finish on this rifle was as you’d expect from an entry level gun, the plastic stock is pretty flimsy and the QD stud I fitted to the stock to put a sling on it tore out pretty quickly. The plastic rail on the fore end has held a bipod on as its meant too.
The plinkster is certainly an entry level gun. Am I sorry I bought it? definitely not it has provided many, many hours of fun for everyone and worked almost flawlessly and I would recommend won as a first gun, a knock around you don’t have to worry about scratching Etc.

I have an Anschutz 1710 and with factory mags it feeds pretty flawlessly but they are $125. I bought a couple of Savage mags for $30 each as they were meant to be the same or with a little filing. Anyway they look the same but they arnt even with a fair bit of adjustment filing here and there the curve is sharper and they dont fit properly. I can get them to work sometimes if you adjust them just right but I regret buying those mags and should have put the money towards a factory one.

.22 Review: Savage Mod. 24 .22/20ga combo
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These guns are unfortunately not made anymore, but they come up on the second hand market quite often. The quality of these guns is much better in my opinion than the POS model they make these days and the 20 ga is a better gauge than the .410 too.
I paid $300 for mine a few years ago, but I have seen then go anywhere up to about $700 on the used gun sites.
It has a dovetail so a scope can be mounted but I’ve never mounted one, I’m guessing a red dot would probably work ok with both barrels, but I haven’t tried it.
this run is quite fond of Remington Yellow Jackets but shoots ok with highland subs too.
I originally bought this gun for the kids but I fell in love with it and like it as a duel purpose bunny / fox gun with a .22 in the top and a few BB’s in the bottom barrel.

maybe mine has a savage mag too?

@tayz this would be a good thread for you to read, knowing your in the market for a .22! :+1:

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They are grouse. My bastard brother in law sold his to someone else after promising to sell it to me. Never forgiven him for that. But don’t really need one now.

Awesome, thanks I’ll have a look through, should help me decide :slight_smile:
Only problem is I’m going to need a bigger safe :joy:

We all need a bigger safe, got bolt another one in next to the one you have!

TOZ 17 review - Bargain priced Soviet workhorse.
I purchased my TOZ cheaply, initially just for its magazine (My Brother had lost his) as it was priced about the going rate for just Magazines. The plan was to keep the magazine and resell the rifle, however I made the mistake of throwing a scope on it and taking it to the range.
It is quite accurate for a cheap 22 and is not at all fussy about what ammunition is used, everything I’ve tried has shot acceptably.
The Timberwork is crude, like a year 10 project (that got a C), the stock has a Schnabel forend and some checkering and is adult sized, but is just not as well formed as it could be. The buttplate is blued steel. The inletting is functional.
The barrel and action show plenty of machining marks and the receiver is grooved for rings.The Muzzle has a large cone then flat section with the crown recessed a fair bit.
Medium to high rings are needed to clear the rear sight unless it is removed, these make a consistent hold a touch difficult to achieve.
The bolt has a very stiff spring and a lot of mass behind the firing pin, this combines to give consistent ignition, over a thousand or so rounds I have yet to have a misfire.
The trigger on mine has been worked on, and is much better than other TOZ’s I have shot, all part of the gamble with secondhand guns.
The magazine is similar to an old Sportco or Marlin (both of which can be modified to work in these) hold six rounds and is very crudely made and hand fitted to the rifle - when new they came with 2 matching numbered magazines and they are not necessarily interchangeable between rifles. The magazine release is very easy to use, even if you do not mean to…It sits just at the natural balance point carrying the rifle in one hand around paddocks and the Magazine is a loose fit at best. Reflective tape is a wise addition and makes them easier to find once you notice its gone.

Conclusion- Functionally almost the equal of My Model 2 BRNO, but incomparable aesthetically and in ease of use. Its my go to 22 for knockabout use or rainy weather, when the nice rifles stay at home. They are as cheap as anything, just make sure you get one or more magazine with the gun.

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